
Podcast by Colin Gray and Jacob Edgar-Anderson
Podcast by Colin Gray and Jacob Edgar-Anderson
09 May 2025
In this episode, Jacob and I discuss the AI-powered episode Jacob created last week - a fascinating experiment using Eleven Labs to clone his voice. He walks through his entire workflow from capturing voice notes and using Claude to help refine ideas, to the challenges of making the AI voice sound natural. We also chat about the ethics and concerns around voice cloning technology.
Let us know what you thought of the AI episode here. Would you listen to more content like that?
👉 What did you think of the AI Episode?
Later, I share insights from a recent trip - particularly how challenging it was to create content while traveling with family, balancing capturing moments versus actually experiencing them. I also provide honest feedback on travel gear like the DJI Osmo Mobile gimbal and DJI Mic Minis.
🟢 Eleven Labs voice cloning requires verification and paid plans, taking about 5 hours to process the audio samples you provide
🟢 Creating an AI voice that sounds natural in conversation is much harder than for scripted content - Jacob's voice clone worked well for documentary-style narration but wouldn't work for natural conversation
🟢 When traveling and creating content, consider batch processing rather than trying to publish on the go - capturing journal-style voice notes for later refinement works better than trying to create finished content while traveling
🟢 Convenience beats quality when creating content on the move - simpler tools that are quick to set up (like your phone) often win over specialized equipment that takes time to configure
🟢 Consider whether gear purchases like gimbals match your actual content style - they're great for filmmaking but overkill for simple travel documentation
🟢 Eleven Labs - AI voice cloning platform Jacob used to create his voice clone (https://elevenlabs.io)
🟢 Claude - AI assistant used to help refine ideas and create content
🟢 VoicePal - App for recording and expanding on journal entries through AI questioning
🟢 DJI Osmo Mobile 7/7P - Smartphone gimbal for stabilized video (https://www.dji.com/osmo-mobile-7)
🟢 DJI Mic Mini - Wireless microphone system (https://www.dji.com/uk/mic-mini)
🟢 Alitu - Our podcast maker app with recording, editing and hosting (https://www.alitu.com)
00:00 Introduction and catching up
02:05 Jacob's AI-powered episode experiment
05:20 How Jacob created his voice clone with Eleven Labs
08:02 Voice cloning quality and accuracy
14:11 Content workflow with AI assistance
20:15 Script development and voice generation challenges
25:43 The threat of AI voice cloning for scams
30:56 Potential positive uses for AI voices
37:55 Colin's travel content creation experiences
41:44 The challenge of creating while experiencing
46:24 Finding time to edit during travel
51:37 Balancing documentation and enjoyment
55:52 Review of DJI Osmo Mobile gimbal
58:53 Experience with DJI Mic Minis
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03 May 2025
In this experimental meta-episode, host Jacob explores the complex relationship creators have with AI in 2025. Using his own voice cloned with ElevenLabs, alongside two AI hosts named NotJacob and Eva, the episode examines how creators are simultaneously empowered and unsettled by AI tools—capable of producing more than ever before, yet questioning what it means to create at all.
The conversation follows the typical creator journey with AI: from that first moment of revelation, through experimentation with new workflows, into creative identity crisis, and finally toward finding a balanced approach that preserves human creativity while embracing AI assistance.
What makes this episode unique is that it's also a demonstration of the very technology being discussed: AI-generated voices discussing AI content creation, with occasional appearances from "Producer Jacob" sharing his real-world experiences building with these tools.
This meta-episode showcases a cutting-edge AI content creation workflow:
This workflow exemplifies the "start with human concepts" approach Jacob describes in the episode—the ideas and experiences are authentically his, while AI tools helped with research, organization, and production.
Have thoughts about this experimental format? Want to learn more about the AI tools mentioned?
Email us at: creator@alitu.com
Host: Jacob Anderson
AI Co-hosts: NotJacob and Eva (powered by ElevenLabs)
Research: ChatGPT (OpenAI)
Content Organization: Claude (Anthropic)
Production: Alitu
Creator Craft explores the tools, techniques, and trends shaping creative work today.
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25 April 2025
In this episode, Matthew and Jacob discuss the telltale signs of an amateur creator mindset and provide practical strategies to overcome these common challenges.
🟢 Writer's Block: Many creators struggle with not knowing what to say or lacking confidence in their ideas. The solution lies in gaining clarity about your audience and purpose.
🟢 Motivation Dependence: Amateur creators often wait for inspiration to strike rather than developing consistent creation habits. Professionals show up regardless of how they feel.
🟢 Fear of Idea Theft: Being overly protective of your ideas can prevent you from creating or sharing your work. Ideas without implementation have little value.
The difference between amateur and professional creators isn't talent - it's mindset. Professionals develop systems and habits that allow them to create consistently regardless of feelings, fears, or blocks. By identifying these amateur mindset pitfalls, you can take practical steps to develop a more professional approach to your creative work.
Ready to shift your mindset? Send your questions or experiences to creator@alitu.com!
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18 April 2025
In this solo episode, Jacob tackles one of the most common struggles for aspiring creators: how to make the leap from passively consuming content to actively creating it. He shares practical strategies and a 7-day challenge to help overcome the psychological barriers that keep us stuck in consumption mode.
🟢 Creation Paralysis: The fear of judgment and exposure prevents many would-be creators from taking their first steps, even when they feel a deep urge to create.
🟢 The Perfection Trap: We compare our beginner efforts to highly polished professional content, setting unrealistic expectations for our early work.
🟢 Starting Small: Personal creation begins as a selfish act for yourself before it becomes something for others. The key is setting extremely low barriers to begin.
🟢 Learning from Experience: Jacob shares his story of a failed podcast project (Hell's Theater) where overthinking and not publishing early enough killed the momentum.
Day 1: Identify your big dream and honestly assess where you are now
Day 2: Create something tiny related to your dream for just 15 minutes
Day 3: Find a new environment and create there for 20 minutes
Day 4: Audit your consumption habits - what are you consuming and why?
Day 5: Increase creation time to 25 minutes and try a different format
Day 6: Share something you've created with one trusted person
Day 7: Reflect on the week and plan sustainable next steps
The benefits of creation come primarily from the act itself rather than distribution. Focus on going from 0 to 1, not on building an audience or making money immediately. The goal is to start spending some of the time you use for endless scrolling on creation instead.
"The magical creation isn't actually in the act itself, not necessarily in the distribution... The personal benefits, the fulfillment, the growth, developing your own voice, that all comes just from the acts of creation."
🟢 Dream Plotter: Free tool at dream.itwasjacob.com to help break down creative goals into manageable steps
🟢 Share something you made: email creator@alitu.com
Join Jacob and Matthew as they discuss the difference between amateur and professional creators - but remember, you need to start creating first to have the privilege of figuring out how to become a professional!
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11 April 2025
In this special crossover episode between Creator Craft and Podcraft, Matthew and Jacob dive into a pressing question for all content creators: will content sites still exist in five years? With search habits changing and AI reshaping how people find information online, what does this mean for blogs, podcasts, and other content platforms?
Read Jacob's full article with sources on the stats mentioned, How To Survive The Death of Search Engines And Thrive In 2030
🟢 The Evolution of Search: How zero-click searches and AI are changing the way people discover content, and why this isn't a sudden change but an acceleration of existing trends
🟢 The Content Barbell Strategy: Why creators need to focus on either high-utility, data-rich content or deeply human, experience-based content—and avoid getting caught in the mediocre middle
🟢 Changing Distribution Channels: How every platform is becoming its own universe with algorithm-based discovery replacing traditional search
🟢 The Future of Podcasting: Whether podcasting's open ecosystem will remain an anomaly or eventually centralize like other media
🟢 Building Direct Audience Relationships: The importance of email newsletters and owning your audience connections rather than relying solely on platforms
🟢 Content sites aren't disappearing, but they are evolving - creators need to adapt their approach to remain relevant
🟢 Focus on either end of the "content barbell" - either highly structured, fact-rich, utility content OR deeply human, experiential content that AI can't replicate
🟢 Distribute your content across multiple platforms rather than relying solely on search traffic
🟢 Build direct relationships with your audience through channels you control, like email newsletters
🟢 Be authentically human in your content - personality and genuine experiences will become increasingly valuable
🟢 HubSpot - Example of a major content site that recently took a significant traffic hit 🟢 Perplexity - Next-generation search engine using AI with emphasis on sources 🟢 WeChat - Example of a "super app" that centralizes multiple functions 🟢 ChatGPT and Claude - Current AI tools changing how people find information
Want more podcasting insights? Check out Podcraft, our show all about creating and growing a successful podcast, hosted by Colin and Matthew!
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04 April 2025
In this episode, we get into a couple of AI tools which we've been playing with for content creation. We kick things off discussing ChatGPT's updated image generation capabilities, which finally solved the text legibility problem that's plagued AI image creation for years. Jacob shows the steps you can take to finally create professionally designed assets like cheat sheets, social media graphics, and podcast artwork where the text is perfectly rendered. The key is following a specific set of steps, being specific with your prompts, providing exact copy, and including reference images for style and layout inspiration.
Colin then shares his exploration of dictation and voice-to-text tools. He highlights TalkText for basic dictation and VoicePal (created by Ali Abdaal), which goes beyond simple transcription to become a thinking partner that asks intelligent follow-up questions about your ideas. This makes it perfect for content creators who want to develop their thoughts while on the go, with the added bonus of being able to repurpose those conversations directly into various content formats like LinkedIn posts or newsletters.
🟢 When using ChatGPT's new image generation, provide the exact text you want displayed rather than expecting it to generate copy - treat it like working with a designer
🟢 Use Markdown formatting when providing text for AI image generation to help it understand what should be headlines, bullet points, etc.
🟢 Include sample images as references for both layout inspiration and style/color palette to get more consistent, professional results
🟢 VoicePal can transform your thinking process by not just recording your spoken thoughts but actively prompting deeper exploration through intelligent questions
🟢 Consider dictation tools as a way to overcome writer's block and generate content more efficiently while walking or on the move
🟢 ChatGPT image generation - Available in the ChatGPT interface with GPT-4 model (click the "Create Image" button)
🟢 How to Generate Text in Images in ChatGPT - Jacob's detailed guide on using ChatGPT's image generation with example prompts
🟢 TalkText - Web-based dictation tool that transcribes and tidies up your speech into well-written text
🟢 VoicePal - iOS Mobile app by Ali Abdaal that functions as a "ghost writer in your pocket" ($7.99/month or £70/year)
🟢 Alitu.com - Our podcast maker app with recording, editing, publishing and now video capabilities
00:00 Welcome to Creator Craft
00:43 Introduction to ChatGPT's improved image generation
06:34 Tips for providing text for AI image generation
23:10 Style transfer capabilities
27:08 Introduction to dictation tools
30:34 TalkText for simple speech-to-text
33:02 VoicePal as an AI thinking partner
40:50 Closing thoughts and Alitu updates
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